[SGVLUG] Electrical Tape!! Re: Buying a spool of ethernet wire - cat5e or cat6? Copper or aluminum? Where? How much?

[Dan Buthusiem]

How many people are invited to help out, and when is this LAN party of
sorts taking place?
On Aug 3, 2012 10:39 AM, "matti" <mathew_2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi Dan,
>
> Electrical Tape! You'll need a good amount of this, get a good multipack.
>
> So, the possible complication is that the old holes drilled are done by
>
> using a small diameter drill bit. To test this this I would go into the
> attic
> one morning about 7am and measure the hole size very carefully.
>
> Drill a test board to the same hole size and cut 3 pieces of cat6 cable
> and electrical tape then together and see if you can easily pull them
> through. If so we should be ok.This typically is more of an issue
>
> upstairs as those drops normally go through 2-3 holed 2x4 vs 1 holed
>
> board from thecrawl space to the 1st floor.
>
>
> ( remember to test with coax + 3 cat 6 if you plan to put in coax )
>
> For placement of any equipment in the attic:
> I think the worst case scenario is equipment fire,
> so we want to probably think that when placing
> equipment.
>
>
> We could be super paranoid and
> build a drywall lined cabinet for it.
> We can probably do well enough with a sturdy
> telco grade plywood backer board piece and
> just place the equipment so that no one will
> want to store "kindling" material above it ;)
>
> thanks
> matti
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: matti <mathew_2000 at yahoo.com>
> To: SGVLUG Discussion List. <sgvlug at sgvlug.net>
> Cc:
> Sent: Friday, August 3, 2012 10:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [SGVLUG] Buying a spool of ethernet wire - cat5e or cat6?
> Copper or aluminum? Where? How much?
>
>
>
> Nice old house. We ( myself and some of your classmates )
> wired up a few nice old homes. Old homes are really nice as
> they have crawl spaces which beat the heck out of slab
> construction.
>
> --
> Happily, I already have wall boxes installed.  The previous owner
> of the house wired every room for cable TV and telephone.
> All I need to do is swap out the old coax + phone wallplates
> for 3 or 4 port keystone wall plates, populated with the right keystone
> bits.
> And then magically thread the wiring alongside the old wiring.
> Good thing I have a crawlspace and overalls...
> --
>
> Great! Old walls are great, but do require you to have a cutting
> tool to get thru the latte ( wood behind the plaster ) Since this
> work is already done we are already ahead of schedule.
>
> I would get the 4 port plates, you can buy blanks to
> cover up the extra hole(s) you wont be using.
>
> but then maybe you will be using 4th port for old school phone line
> ( great for emergency ), or for coax.
>
> > Dan, I have about 4000' of Cat6 left over from my house so you're using
> Cat6.  ;)
> Thanks!
>
> 6 locations total. 3 drops each -> 18 drops total
>
> hmmm.. I would get a 24 port cat6 patch panel.
> Or 2x 12 port patch panels if you want a network "closet"
> in the attic and one in the basement.
>
> note - we would have to pull electrical in the attic to were you
> would want to place the hub.
>
> Have you id'ed the run from the basement to the attic yet?
> Sometimes that will limit how many wires you can run between the floors.
>
> normally I prefer to run all the lines in a house to one location
> so I get no network bottle necks within the house.
> ( I mean YOU DO WANT TO bond the lines right... ;)
>
> so, here is what I would pick up:
> ( for all lines terminating in the basement or attic.. )
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 6x 4 port wall plates
> maybe some blanks to plug the extra holes.
> 18x cat6 keystones - tooled ones probably better than tool-less.. so I
> have been told
> ( you do have a punch down tool right ;)
> maybe coax keystones
> maybe new coax cable ( or keep old one if ok )
> 1x 24 port cat6 patch panel
> some wood/plywood to build NOC wall/shelf..
> short cat6 patch cables to go from patch panel to switch ( ? 10"  12"?)
> zip ties which have a screw hole at one end so we can use to secure wires
> to beams.
> dry wall screws ( hint OSH has these in bulk bins for a good deal 1lb for
> $2.50 or so.. )
>
> if you need to run electrical to your switch/switches:
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> armored flex wire ( 2 conductors, 14g for 15AMP.. )
> metal electrical box ( 2 gang, thus can put in 4 sockets )
> 2x  dual 15AMP sockets ( i like the heavy duty ones. but thats extra $ )
>
> Now, if you are like me you want to actually put in a separate 20AMP
> circuit to feed your 20AMP UPS which can keep your network up for..
> oh 24hrs without power... hmmm.. I think Tom may have had 30AMPs for
> the mini he had... but i digress..
>
> possible extra circuit breaker if you want to run your NOC on a separate
> circuit ( my preference, as it sucks to have your network shutdown when
> someone uses the microwave or drys their hair ;)
>
> should be a fun party!
> matti
>
>
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