[SGVLUG] Debian Sound Issues with sudo?

[Chime Hart]

Hi All: I realize many times I bring strange quirees along-and-maybe more of 
you are mostly in graphical Linux? Certainly none of you are blind, nor needing 
a screen-reader. OK, so we are trying to switch from Speakup, a kernel based 
module over to Fenrir which would only run as root. This is Debian SID. An 
unusual aspect, in some cases, especially running "spd-say" as root, I get no 
sound, but can play audio with sudo mpv    In running lots of duckduckgo 
searches, more folks have it an opposit way where sound only works in root. Yes 
we have alsa, pulse, and pipewire installed-and-yes I am in a sound group. For 
right now Fenrir would be a software speech solution until they can get DecTalk 
support through emacspeak. Speakup-and-fenrir cannot run together, so must 
unload speakup first, then either install from Debian or run a dot deb file, 
otherwise if Speakup is still running, I have no keyboard access. Might any of 
you please have any more tricks we can try to fix these sudo sound issues? 
Thanks so much in advance
Chime